I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

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I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by Buster & Molly Lover on Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:15 pm

I just came up the reason mostly because almost ever freaking kids show has a Goth boy or girl on there show, Thought I know they already have Hard Rock characters like Molly.



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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by MatthewHecht on Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:34 pm

Wait, you mean George is not Goth?
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by Coyote_Mao on Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:28 am

I'm not sure about this idea... Seriously, how many goths have you seen in elementary school? Surprised
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by WheeljackDude on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:07 am

Coyote_Mao wrote:I'm not sure about this idea... Seriously, how many goths have you seen in elementary school? Surprised

Well, there's Lucy from the Loud House, and she's 8...
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by Snowth Poogle on Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:42 pm

Most things considering, I believe Slink is perhaps the closest thing we'll ever get to a goth character, and even then he seems to be something of a Perky Goth character at that.

One problem I've often seen with fiction - particularly in the case of kids shows - is that goth and emo seem to get mixed up (much like how some people tend to get ADHD and ADD - two very different medical conditions - mixed up). Although they seem to display very similar characteristics, they are still rather different: while goth people tend to still be outgoing and socialable, emo people are far more withdrawn, reclusive, and depressive. Trust me, I know these things, I've interacted with self-proclaimed goth and emo people in my life. Emo characteristics are often given to goth characters in fiction, and because both groups of people tend to share similar outward appearances (almost always dressing in black), I think that's another reason why they tend to get mixed up quite often. I find that emo people are usually more prone to body modifications (piercings, hair coloring, dark makeup) than goth. Both also tend to share fascination in dark and morbid interests (blood and gore, the occult, sadism, etc.) which probably also contributes to the common mixing up of the two. All of that is a bit much for a preschool show to handle.

With all of that in mind, I still believe that any goth character the show has would have to be a Perky Goth - I can't imagine a traditional goth character on a preschool show sitting particularly well with some parents out there.

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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by A Lotta Moms on Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:25 pm

Interesting perspective.  I never really did understand the distinction between goth and emo, aside from slight variations on the hairstyle and type of preferred music.  Apparently there's more to it than meets the eye.  

Regarding the possibilities of gothdom in the Arthurverse, I also think Fern is a good candidate.  She shares a number of traits with the stereotype: withdrawn, moody, creative, full of vengeful fantasies, etc.  



Plus, hey, she looks great in gothy colors.
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by Coyote_Mao on Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:30 am

A Lotta Moms wrote:Regarding the possibilities of gothdom in the Arthurverse, I also think Fern is a good candidate.
Yeah, one could easily imagine her becoming a goth in her middle school years... Or maybe that Arthur spin-off for more mature audiences Marc Brown mentioned? Smile
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by The Decimator on Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:21 pm

A Lotta Moms wrote:


Plus, hey, she looks great in gothy colors.

True, that. And I'm not just saying that because she's my favorite character.... Fern
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by MatthewHecht on Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:00 pm

I think the show does best when it lets already existing characters do stuff like this because, it shows how people changes, and it makes sure they have other personality traits, and I think Fern would be the best choice.
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by Wild Starry Moony on Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:03 am

i believe fern will definitely go goth as a teenager. in fact the only reason why she hasn't is most likely because of her mother, as seen in 'francine redecorates.'
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by ZeGermanArthurFan on Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:06 pm

Fern already outed herself as a punk in Perfect Christmas, and since punks and goths have similar personalities...
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by Coyote_Mao on Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:17 pm

ZeGermanArthurFan wrote:Fern already outed herself as a punk in Perfect Christmas, and since punks and goths have similar personalities...
They do? Shocked
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by ZeGermanArthurFan on Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:34 am

Yeah, I mean, they're all emotional and stuff....
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by Coyote_Mao on Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:17 am

ZeGermanArthurFan wrote:Yeah, I mean, they're all emotional and stuff....
Did you just say both punks and goths were secretly emo? tongue
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by ZeGermanArthurFan on Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:54 am

They dress wildly, and they...ah screw it, they're not similar after all.
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by Coyote_Mao on Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:49 am

Well, they're about as similar as - say - European knights and Japanese Samurai were. Smile
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by Wild Starry Moony on Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:52 am

thats a very good analogy, coyote.

there are some people who mix the two cultures in their expression, its possible fern would be one of these. although she does seem to have more of a leaning towards goth, with her poetry and love of the creepy.
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by Coyote_Mao on Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:47 am

Wild Starry Moony wrote:...although she does seem to have more of a leaning towards goth, with her poetry and love of the creepy.
She probably haven't even discovered the goth subculture yet. All in due time, I suppose. Surprised
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by ArthurFrancineFan on Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:23 pm

Slink, Fern or possibly a Punk Molly. she would not be Goth but i think she would have a pretty kick ass style though.
Fern would look great as a goth.

hmm Fern and Slink? theres a fanfic
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by MatthewHecht on Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:25 pm

ArthurFrancineFan wrote:Slink, Fern or possibly a Punk Molly. she would not be Goth but i think she would have a pretty kick ass style though.
Fern would look great as a goth.

hmm Fern and Slink? theres a fanfic
Good to see you her again.
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Re: I Think The Show Arthur Needs a Goth Character

Post by CMSAB11 on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:00 am

MatthewHecht wrote:
ArthurFrancineFan wrote:Slink, Fern or possibly a Punk Molly. she would not be Goth but i think she would have a pretty kick ass style though.
Fern would look great as a goth.

hmm Fern and Slink? theres a fanfic
Good to see you her again.

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