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Post by Roabe on Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:49 pm

On the Net Neutrality thing. The loss of NN affects me personally. One aspect of my job involves maintaining a PBX (telephone exchange) server for the business I work for. The server trunks out through a SIP provider via the Internet, which allows us to make phone calls to out-of-state and international phone numbers, and vice-versa, at low cost. Sure it's archaic, but many of our customers (mostly elderly people) still use regular PSTN phones.

Internet providers that bundle in telephone services have tried for years to block independent phone services like the one my job uses, in order to force their customers to use only what the ISP has the offer. The FCC, when it was actually competent, put a stop to these practices every time an ISP attempted it.

People who try to justify the loss of Net Neutrality always tell me there's nothing to worry about because the law has only been around for two years. It's not just a two year old law that was struck down, the current FCC has slowly been chipping away at any and all regulation that protects consumers and keeps telecom companies in check. Not just Net Neutrality.
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Post by A Lotta Moms on Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:58 pm

I really do hope that this doesn't affect your career too seriously.  Speaking from experience, I know that the Midwest isn't the best place to be right now in terms of job hunting. Neutral  

This just goes to show how far-reaching the implications of this repeal really are, and underscores the fact that at the end of the day it's just a badly-veiled effort to endow already-too-big corporations with more control, bigger profits, and make government censorship many times easier in the process.  I have to wonder what kind of idiot actually believes the FCC and supports this shit.  Probably all of the older people who don't really use or understand the internet, since those are the people who generally tend to vote more frequently and put these people in office.  

On the bright side, at least the Force is still with us.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/12/17/mark-hamill-engages-fcc-chairman-jedi-lightsaber-battle-twitter/959678001/
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Post by MikaelaArsenault on Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:49 am

A Lotta Moms wrote:I really do hope that this doesn't affect your career too seriously.  Speaking from experience, I know that the Midwest isn't the best place to be right now in terms of job hunting. Neutral  

This just goes to show how far-reaching the implications of this repeal really are, and underscores the fact that at the end of the day it's just a badly-veiled effort to endow already-too-big corporations with more control, bigger profits, and make government censorship many times easier in the process.  I have to wonder what kind of idiot actually believes the FCC and supports this shit.  Probably all of the older people who don't really use or understand the internet, since those are the people who generally tend to vote more frequently and put these people in office.  

On the bright side, at least the Force is still with us.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/12/17/mark-hamill-engages-fcc-chairman-jedi-lightsaber-battle-twitter/959678001/

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Re: America is the Land of Shit

Post by Snowth Poogle on Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:47 pm

Holy fuckin' bucket of shit!

Trump did the unthinkable today!

He apologized for something!

The man who never apologizes for anything actually apologized for something today!

And what did he apologize for? Retweeting an anti-Muslim video connected with a racist alt-right group.

The man who clearly revels in the support from racist and hate groups, and openly incites racism in this country, actually apologized for doing something racially insensitive.

The world will explode in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1. . . .

BOOM!

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Post by Coyote_Mao on Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:41 am

*Watches the fireworks from the other side of the Bering Sea, eating popcorn*
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Post by A Lotta Moms on Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:02 am

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Post by Buster & Molly Lover on Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:03 pm

CMSAB11 wrote:roy moore is a fucking joke

wait wait wait i've got another one

Dam, That made me fucking Laugh my Butt Off! Very Happy Surprised Laughing Razz
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Post by Coyote_Mao on Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:36 pm

A Lotta Moms wrote:
I just realized that this is probably Maria's actual first speaking role. Surprised
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Post by CMSAB11 on Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:46 pm

wait who is maria's voice actor

google: 

ahh Stacey DePass, im sure she has a substantially larger fanbase since she lent her voice to maria pappas
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Re: America is the Land of Shit

Post by Snowth Poogle on Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:01 pm

UGH!!! I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF DUMBASS DONALD BLAMING EVERYBODY ELSE FOR HIS OWN SHIT!!! HE'S BEEN DENYING RUSSIA'S MEDDLING THIS WHOLE ENTIRE TIME HE'S BEEN DICTATOR, AND EVEN DISMISSED EVIDENCE ALTOGETHER, BUT NOW THAT THAT EVIDENCE IS OUT IN THE OPEN, HE'S DEFAULTING TO BLAMING OBAMA AND DEMOCRATS FOR NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!! THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAD EVIDENCE BEFORE HE LEFT OFFICE, HE SAID THEY WERE LOOKING INTO IT AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVIDENCE WAS CONCRETE BEFORE MAKING IT PUBLIC, SO AS TO AVOID ANY KIND OF INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT! TRUMP AND HIS "ADMINISTRATION" IMMEDIATELY DISMISSED THAT EVIDENCE ONCE HE GOT INTO OFFICE BECAUSE, "IT DIDN'T MATTER ANYMORE," AND HE'S BEEN DENYING RUSSIAN MEDDLING EVER SINCE! HE KNEW THEIR MEDDLING SWUNG THE ELECTION IN HIS FAVOR, THAT'S WHY HE'S BEEN DENYING IT ALL THIS TIME!!! OBAMA AND DEMOCRATS AREN'T THE ONES WHO DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, HE IS!!! THIS IDIOT IS A FUCKING LUNATIC!!! HE NEVER OWNS UP TO HIS BULLSHIT, AND DEFAULTS TO BLAMING EVERYONE ELSE FOR IT!!! THE ENTIRE GOP DOES THIS!!! THESE PEOPLE ARE CLINICALLY AND CRIMINALLY INSANE!!!

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Post by ArthurFrancineFan on Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:25 pm

Um... Hold up a second there Snoweth.
While Donald has no doubt done some questionable things and his remarks about his daughter Ivanka were creepy, let's not pretend Hilary and her corrupted elite were squeaky clean pillars of society.

Julian Assange and Edward Snowden blew the whistle on The Clinton's and Democrats won't have a bar of it, they blatantly deny Hilarys involvement with Podesta her accessiry to rape by not only allowing a convicted rapist to walk free during her time as a lawyer but by mocking her husbands rape victims.
Then there was the 6 billion dollars from Haiti that went "missing" conveniently so did her 30 000 emails which showcase her involvement with the Saudis the Russians and George Nazi Soros.
She spear headed a campaign against Bernie sanders and now has people who were in her circle coming out of the woodwork with their books, exposing Clinton's involvement in sabotaging Sanders in 2016 from being elected.
I don't live in America nor do I want to because the political unrest portrayed by the media is crazy. It does not matter the network, if its Fox or CNN.. They're all nuts sensationalizing every action and movement within the Trump administration.
I was all for Bernie sanders until that pant suited devil came along and trampled all over him. So yeah she deserved defeat and is happily blaming everyone from republican women to the white male patriarchal society. I'd better check my white Jewish priveledge lol
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Post by A Lotta Moms on Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:33 pm

I share the sentiment both ways.  Hillary was just about the worst candidate the Democrats could have chosen, and Donald's turned out to be many, many times worse than even pessimistically anticipated.  Do I think Hillary would have been a better option at this point?  Probably.  But I'll maintain that my voting third party didn't help Trump, since I wouldn't have voted for Hillary in the alternative.  

Let's hope he falls hard politically and gets what's coming to him.  I'd like to think that America will be just a little wiser in 2020 after all of this, but I suspect it's just wishful thinking. Neutral
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Post by ArthurFrancineFan on Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:16 am

I'd have voted third party personally. Smile
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Post by Kerry9Story on Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:21 am

fuck em
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Post by ArthurFrancineFan on Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:55 pm

All of em are corrupt money hungry shills anyway
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Post by Snowth Poogle on Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:11 am

I never said I supported Hillary either, in fact, I only voted for her out of reluctance: we were that desperate to keep Trump out of Office, and the only way to do that was to vote for Hillary. Like Moms said, she was the worst candidate the DNC could have offered, but unfortunately, Bernie wasn't much better. Granted, a lot of Bernie's policies are sounding really good right now as we continue to live through Trump's America, but he comes off as just another old, angry, white grump who could drop dead at any given second. The 2016 election has got to go down in history as one of the worst ever, because it literally came down to a choice of who was the lesser of two evils, and . . . Hillary was that lesser evil. The only positive thing I could see about a Hillary Presidency is that America would continue to move in the same forward and progressive direction Obama steered it in for eight years, but I still also see we'd have a lot of problems in the country even with her in Office: Trump's supporters are loud about their love for him, so I could see a bunch of these riots and protests still happening, only anti-Hillary protests and such.

But at least Jared Kuschner has actually admitted that Trump does, indeed, lie to his base because he knows they're stupid enough to buy into them . . . and he's actually not wrong about that. Trump's supporters are easily some of the most brainwashed people I've ever seen.

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Post by A Lotta Moms on Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:27 am

Gotcha, I do understand and respect why one would vote for the lesser or two evils, and know that many people who did vote for Hillary or Trump really had to hold their noses while doing so.

It's disturbing that people continue to zealously support Trump, even after all of this.  I get that some people might have voted for him early on believing that he would be a moderate alternative and do something about fair trade and manufacturing jobs, but now after what he's shown himself to be? Neutral
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Post by RecklesslyMindful on Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:26 am

I stumbled across this thread the other day, and I initially held off from opening my mouth. But seeing most of the comments here, I feel like I could maybe help offer an interesting perspective, as someone who believes America is far from being the Land of Shit.

I'd be willing to call myself distinctly right-leaning. I find myself agreeing with conservatives or libertarians on most issues, though I always remember to keep an open ear to the other side, because there are a few things I'm with the left on too, just not that many as it happens. So I'm by no means a professional political scholar, not even close. But I'll still try to help answer any specific questions you might have. And maybe my thoughts will be interesting to hear, as an everyday run-of-the-mill kid from the Midwest who happens to lean right and owns a copy of Dangerous by Milo Yiannopoulos, if you're curious about the mindset of someone like me.

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Snowth Poogle wrote:I never said I supported Hillary either, in fact, I only voted for her out of reluctance: we were that desperate to keep Trump out of Office, and the only way to do that was to vote for Hillary. Like Moms said, she was the worst candidate the DNC could have offered, but unfortunately, Bernie wasn't much better. Granted, a lot of Bernie's policies are sounding really good right now as we continue to live through Trump's America, but he comes off as just another old, angry, white grump who could drop dead at any given second. The 2016 election has got to go down in history as one of the worst ever, because it literally came down to a choice of who was the lesser of two evils, and . . . Hillary was that lesser evil. The only positive thing I could see about a Hillary Presidency is that America would continue to move in the same forward and progressive direction Obama steered it in for eight years, but I still also see we'd have a lot of problems in the country even with her in Office: Trump's supporters are loud about their love for him, so I could see a bunch of these riots and protests still happening, only anti-Hillary protests and such.

But at least Jared Kuschner has actually admitted that Trump does, indeed, lie to his base because he knows they're stupid enough to buy into them . . . and he's actually not wrong about that. Trump's supporters are easily some of the most brainwashed people I've ever seen.

It's funny the way you describe your reluctance to vote for Hillary, because that's much like how a lot of Trump voters felt, that HE was the lesser of two evils, as Moms puts it. I actually voted for Hillary at the time, which was dumb in hindsight given how little research I did on issues at that point. At that time I was casually left-leaning, the opposite of what I am now in a number of ways. Of course, I'd change my vote if I could go back and do so.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel the exact opposite of you on much of what you say. Being in the state of mind I'm in now, I like the way a lot of things have been going in the past year, at least in America compared to much of the rest of the world. While Trump isn't perfect, he addressed a lot of issues many conservatives were concerned about that even other Republican candidates weren't talking about. And while I definitely would never vote for Bernie, being against pretty much any form of socialism myself, I could at least respect him in ways I could never respect Hillary. She was definitely the worst candidate for the DNC. She represented the establishment in a lot of people's eyes, and likely would have been basically four more years of Obama, which is what many people don't want. Trump was basically the opposite in that he was a game-changer and disruption of sorts as a new alternative to establishment Republicans, and that kind of sums of much of his appeal to people. He's like the political version of what the Sex Pistols were in the 1970's... in the words of a Sex Pistol himself.

I think it's unfair to refer to Trump voters as "brainwashed" though. I myself put a lot of time and thought into deciding my opinion on him following the election, and it wasn't easy coming to terms with that, but what can I say - I like a lot of the ideas he spouts, even if he doesn't always express them in the best of ways. One thing I'm sure we can both agree on is that he says facepalm-worthy things at times.  Laughing

A Lotta Moms wrote:It's disturbing that people continue to zealously support Trump, even after all of this.  I get that some people might have voted for him early on believing that he would be a moderate alternative and do something about fair trade and manufacturing jobs, but now after what he's shown himself to be? Neutral

He's by no means perfect, I'm totally with you there, even being a slightly reluctant Trump supporter myself. I don't think you'll find many Trump voters saying they love him for his personality. But I'm one to care more about policy and stances on the issues rather than whether the candidate seems like a nice guy, and I like a lot of his policies.

Again, I'm not claiming to be an expert in politics, largely just a casual observer. This is just where I stand now after several months of looking at different sources and viewpoints and forming my own general opinion. I'm happy to answer questions and be as straightforward as possible. I won't try and change your mind on anything, just maybe help offer a different view on things. Very Happy

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Re: America is the Land of Shit

Post by A Lotta Moms on Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:33 am

And hey, that's totally okay. Smile  

After all, everybody that you meet has an original point of view, right?  I know there's a lot of frustration and vitriolic discussion in this topic (yes, coming from me too at times), but different political views are welcome and respected so long as they're not discriminatory or intolerant in nature.  Disagreeing on trade policy, economic theory, supply-side vs. demand-side, capitalism vs. socialism, etc...it's all good.  

Originally hailing from the Midwest myself, I can appreciate just how much the fair trade argument really is valued in that region and how reviled the Clinton legacy is, since policies such as NAFTA, GATT, etc. damaged the manufacturing industry in such a way that many careers, lives and households were ruined.  

Though I'm afraid I've not time for a more detailed response at the moment, I just wanted to reassure you that your political views will be respected and, at most, may be met with civil debate by those who disagree.  Again, the only few times members have run afoul of the community is when they've been overt Neo-Nazis or anti-gay (yes, we've had instances of both).  I can see immediately that you don't fall into those categories, and I know I don't just speak for myself when I say that you're already a valued community member.  I'm glad you felt comfortable speaking your mind.

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Post by RecklesslyMindful on Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:21 pm

Disagreement is definitely totally okay as long as one isn't a jerk about it. It helps that I basically WAS liberal for a while, so it's not too difficult for me to get where someone would be coming from most of the time. It's good to remember people have more in common than we realize at times, often more similarities than differences. With the school shootings, for example, next to zero conservatives will tell you they're okay with children being shot down in cold blood. No one wants that. It's only the particular solution they propose that would actually be different. And that's just one example.

Absolutely, I totally agree with you there. South Dakota is pretty darn red. It would take a lot for my state to turn blue. But you pretty much summed up why states like Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania turned red in 2016, due to the heavy industry those states have. Especially the latter three - None of them had been red since '88 or '84.

Well that's certainly relieving to hear. It's admittedly kind of a scary time to be conservative or - god forbid - a Trump supporter. There have been a number of reports of people being attacked for wearing MAGA hats in public in places like LA and New York. Political correctness has been a real stranglehold on even daring to suggest some of the things I do in some people's eyes. But thanks for being kind and willing to listen, at the very least. It's very appreciated on my end. This place IS pretty darn awesome. Smile

(A shame you've had to deal with neo-nazis and anti-gay people. Being bisexual myself, I certainly don't care for that. And I obviously disapprove of racism of any kind. Hopefully it's rare for you to have to deal with extremists like that on either end of the political spectrum.)

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Post by ArthurFrancineFan on Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:20 am

RecklesslyMindful wrote:I stumbled across this thread the other day, and I initially held off from opening my mouth. But seeing most of the comments here, I feel like I could maybe help offer an interesting perspective, as someone who believes America is far from being the Land of Shit.

I'd be willing to call myself distinctly right-leaning. I find myself agreeing with conservatives or libertarians on most issues, though I always remember to keep an open ear to the other side, because there are a few things I'm with the left on too, just not that many as it happens. So I'm by no means a professional political scholar, not even close. But I'll still try to help answer any specific questions you might have. And maybe my thoughts will be interesting to hear, as an everyday run-of-the-mill kid from the Midwest who happens to lean right and owns a copy of Dangerous by Milo Yiannopoulos, if you're curious about the mindset of someone like me.

(Here are my political compass test results, for a visual representation.)


Snowth Poogle wrote:I never said I supported Hillary either, in fact, I only voted for her out of reluctance: we were that desperate to keep Trump out of Office, and the only way to do that was to vote for Hillary. Like Moms said, she was the worst candidate the DNC could have offered, but unfortunately, Bernie wasn't much better. Granted, a lot of Bernie's policies are sounding really good right now as we continue to live through Trump's America, but he comes off as just another old, angry, white grump who could drop dead at any given second. The 2016 election has got to go down in history as one of the worst ever, because it literally came down to a choice of who was the lesser of two evils, and . . . Hillary was that lesser evil. The only positive thing I could see about a Hillary Presidency is that America would continue to move in the same forward and progressive direction Obama steered it in for eight years, but I still also see we'd have a lot of problems in the country even with her in Office: Trump's supporters are loud about their love for him, so I could see a bunch of these riots and protests still happening, only anti-Hillary protests and such.

But at least Jared Kuschner has actually admitted that Trump does, indeed, lie to his base because he knows they're stupid enough to buy into them . . . and he's actually not wrong about that. Trump's supporters are easily some of the most brainwashed people I've ever seen.

It's funny the way you describe your reluctance to vote for Hillary, because that's much like how a lot of Trump voters felt, that HE was the lesser of two evils, as Moms puts it. I actually voted for Hillary at the time, which was dumb in hindsight given how little research I did on issues at that point. At that time I was casually left-leaning, the opposite of what I am now in a number of ways. Of course, I'd change my vote if I could go back and do so.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel the exact opposite of you on much of what you say. Being in the state of mind I'm in now, I like the way a lot of things have been going in the past year, at least in America compared to much of the rest of the world. While Trump isn't perfect, he addressed a lot of issues many conservatives were concerned about that even other Republican candidates weren't talking about. And while I definitely would never vote for Bernie, being against pretty much any form of socialism myself, I could at least respect him in ways I could never respect Hillary. She was definitely the worst candidate for the DNC. She represented the establishment in a lot of people's eyes, and likely would have been basically four more years of Obama, which is what many people don't want. Trump was basically the opposite in that he was a game-changer and disruption of sorts as a new alternative to establishment Republicans, and that kind of sums of much of his appeal to people. He's like the political version of what the Sex Pistols were in the 1970's... in the words of a Sex Pistol himself.

I think it's unfair to refer to Trump voters as "brainwashed" though. I myself put a lot of time and thought into deciding my opinion on him following the election, and it wasn't easy coming to terms with that, but what can I say - I like a lot of the ideas he spouts, even if he doesn't always express them in the best of ways. One thing I'm sure we can both agree on is that he says facepalm-worthy things at times.  Laughing

A Lotta Moms wrote:It's disturbing that people continue to zealously support Trump, even after all of this.  I get that some people might have voted for him early on believing that he would be a moderate alternative and do something about fair trade and manufacturing jobs, but now after what he's shown himself to be? Neutral

He's by no means perfect, I'm totally with you there, even being a slightly reluctant Trump supporter myself. I don't think you'll find many Trump voters saying they love him for his personality. But I'm one to care more about policy and stances on the issues rather than whether the candidate seems like a nice guy, and I like a lot of his policies.

Again, I'm not claiming to be an expert in politics, largely just a casual observer. This is just where I stand now after several months of looking at different sources and viewpoints and forming my own general opinion. I'm happy to answer questions and be as straightforward as possible. I won't try and change your mind on anything, just maybe help offer a different view on things. Very Happy


You like Milo? Huh me too. I like the fact an openly gay Jewish man married to a black guy can stand up against the mainstream media and while he is not a staunch republican, he supports Trump who most Republicans disliked anyway an example would be the journalist and right wing editor Ben Shapiro who disliked Trump from the beginning and was a Ted Cruz fan dear God Cruz of all people but yeah I think Alot of misinformation had been spread around and the way celebrities come out in droves to protest and support black lives matter and Antifa which most Liberal Democrats are against since they are violent and disrespectful, not to mention this whole "White priveledge" "Blame White men for everything" Rhetoric that original feminism was Never about.... The LGBTQ has now included incest and pedophilia as "lifestyle choices" which naturally mocks the cause and the community itself.
I guess without going too far right so you're watching Alex Jones raving about gay frogs.... Yeah that's a thing I'm inclined to side with conservatives or libertarians like Lauren Southern who is neither left or right but third party and recently banned from entry to the UK for "hate speech" against Muslims. It wasn't hate speech, she pointed out some serious problems within Islam and PC living England lost their shit.

As for the Clinton's..... There on parr with the Bushes in terms of corruption and greed. Obama had a helluva clean up when he entered in 2009 was it? That both Bill and George contributed too. Financially they managed to put the countey into a recession
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Re: America is the Land of Shit

Post by RecklesslyMindful on Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:44 am

ArthurFrancineFan wrote:You like Milo? Huh me too. I like the fact an openly gay Jewish man married to a black guy can stand up against the mainstream media and while he is not a staunch republican, he supports Trump who most Republicans disliked anyway an example would be the journalist and right wing editor Ben Shapiro who disliked Trump from the beginning and was a Ted Cruz fan dear God Cruz of all people but yeah I think Alot of misinformation had been spread around and the way celebrities come out in droves to protest and support black lives matter and Antifa which most Liberal Democrats are against since they are violent and disrespectful, not to mention this whole "White priveledge" "Blame White men for everything" Rhetoric that original feminism was Never about.... The LGBTQ has now included incest and pedophilia as "lifestyle choices" which naturally mocks the cause and the community itself.
I guess without going too far right so you're watching Alex Jones raving about gay frogs.... Yeah that's a thing I'm inclined to side with conservatives or libertarians like Lauren Southern who is neither left or right but third party and recently banned from entry to the UK for "hate speech" against Muslims. It wasn't hate speech, she pointed out some serious problems within Islam and PC living England lost their shit.

As for the Clinton's..... There on parr with the Bushes in terms of corruption and greed. Obama had a helluva clean up when he entered in 2009 was it? That both Bill and George contributed too. Financially they managed to put the countey into a recession

I love Milo! I have ever since I learned of him and looked at videos of some of his talks. He's definitely not a typical staunch Republican, but that's what I love about him. The image of conservatives has needed some shaking up, and someone like him is perfect for that.

I totally agree regarding all the misinformation being spread. BLM and ANTIFA are basically terror groups, and I think the majority of people realize that given their history, but the media certainly does have a way of skewing things. It's a shame that feminism has become what it has, with its whole man-bashing rhetoric. It was much different once upon a time, but I think the fact that they're worrying about things like "manspreading" and "mansplaining" shows that they've run out of real things to complain about. I don't hate anyone for simply claiming to be a feminist, of course, because even most people who do don't agree with that rhetoric. Heck, my best friend is a liberal feminist. But when less than one in five women describe themselves as one while still claiming to be all for equal rights, that's when you can tell something's changed.

And yeah, lots of the LGBT stuff has definitely gone off the rails. And I say that being bisexual myself. I certainly can't say I feel oppressed at all in this day and age due to my sexuality. It's perfectly legal to be with a guy if I want to be, and I'd say we won the fight in 2015 with the legalization of same sex marriage. Some of these people advocating for normalization of pedophilia?... Yeah, no. That's where I draw the line.

Exactly!!! Hate speech shouldn't even be a concept that's taken seriously, let alone something you're able to ban people from your country for. The only things you shouldn't be able to speak are direct threats of violence to people. Milo's probably been banned from there for saying similar things, too. If he hasn't, it's likely only a matter of time. Imagine being banned from your own country for trying to help people by speaking the truth to them.

I can't say I have extremely positive feelings on any president since Reagan. I'm glad we didn't get another Clinton OR another Bush in the White House this time around, though I wouldn't say Obama was much better. I don't feel like he actually DID that much, especially not much terribly positive. Trump is the first one I've really liked in my lifetime.
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Re: America is the Land of Shit

Post by ArthurFrancineFan on Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:01 am

Oh wow I'm giddy lol I have found a like minded Arthur fan. Lol I've most definitely been "red pilled" but when you see idiots like Gazi who say all white people are cave men and cave "beckys" with toilet seat complexions that need to be shot and killed. This Gazi has a following and hated Obama because his parents are interracial. He's a massive racist and BLM propoganda machine. Then you have SomeBlackGuy who is awesome, he's completely rational and open. He's not a republican but he's not Liberal either. It seems most people in the States appear to despise Clinton and Trump. Alot of ppl on the streets you know, you're average Joe would say they couldn't vote for a crooked politican such as Hilary and tbh I was a bernie supporter until SHE cheated her way into the running. Its been publicised that Hilary spear headed bernie and poured money and celebrity endorsement into winning but it didn't work thank god. The things she has done are imo worse than Trumps tweets and locker room comments. I don't condone him cheating on melania 12 yrs ago with Stormy Daniels if this is true BUT bill Clinton raped three women who have come forward about it. Hilary labelled them "bills bimbos" that's horrendous to make light of such despicable acts and we know Bill is disgusting k mean Monica chose to consent to an affair but still he lied under oath and rightfully got impeached.

I do enjoy Paul Joseph Watson as he's a British guy with facts and knowledge that blow the elitist celebrity idiots out of the water. I particularly like his come backs toward JK SJW Rowling and Eminem. I saw his video on the sex pistols and Johnny rotten supports trump. The sex pistols were the counter culture and still are. Eminem is an idiot, he's not brave for rapping about Trump being orange I mean that's not new or inventive. Anyway it's cool to come together and discuss and debate. I mean lol I don't live in the States. I've been in a relationship with a transgender female and I still consider myself open and Christian. Milo is Catholic and gay so that really gets people rattled but I love it.
I will say we can't let political feeling stop friendships. A lotta Moms and Meg are the best kind of people and they've created an awesome forum where we can be ourselves and let the lunacy and kinky flags fly
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Re: America is the Land of Shit

Post by RecklesslyMindful on Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:22 am

Awesome! It's good to hear other points of view, of course, I don't doubt that for a second. But it's nice to have people to talk to who are more like-minded as well.

"Red-pilled" is definitely a good way to describe me too. I was hardly an SJW or anything, but there are definitely a lot of things I was ignorant to regarding the right. Milo is really the reason for it. He's basically my hero. I even bought his book and am planning on buying his next one. It would take a while to go over the variety of things I totally flipped opinions on.

I can see the appeal in Bernie way more than in Hillary. He was kind of the equivalent to Trump on the left, it seems, someone that drove establishment types crazy with their distinctly different ideas. I definitely think Hillary had more than a little to do with him losing the nomination. I'll be interested to see if he gets it next time. Trump vs Sanders. That'd be interesting. He deserved it way more than Hillary for certain. One of my favorite comedians, Bill Burr, once did a bit on his confusion regarding her. It basically went, "I don't know how she even became a senator. She went from being the president's wife to being a senator in the blink of an eye. It's like, 'What? Did you just pick it up?' It's like Tom Brady's wife becoming the next quarterback for the Rams."  Laughing

I literally just subscribed to Paul Joseph Watson the other day! He's definitely fun to watch. He's pretty merciless, a lot like Milo.

I totally agree regarding the counterculture thing. The tides definitely turned there. You can't claim to be counterculture while also bashing Trump. You didn't see the Sex Pistols going along with the media rhetoric at the height of their fame, and they still aren't. Johnny Rotten even expressed his own liking of Trump.

Well hopefully whatever other country you're in is a good one. And I agree, always nice to come together and share opinions. I'm really interested in talking to Snowth Poogle when he comes back on, as it looks like he doesn't share too many of my opinions. But people with opposite opinions can be interesting to hear from, so I'm eager for that.

The fact that Milo's gay and Catholic definitely rattles some people. I wonder if I'm kinda the opposite that way. I'm right-leaning, but I'm also an atheist. You don't hear about many atheist conservatives. I get tired of establishment type Republicans saying things like the two are incompatible... Uh... So apparently you can't lack a belief in a god while still believing in limited government and taxes? Doesn't actually seem to make much sense to suggest they're incompatible.

Of course not. Friendships should always be able to withstand politics. If someone breaks a friendship with you over politics, they didn't deserve you in the first place.


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