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Re: Season 21

Post by MikaelaArsenault on Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:53 pm

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PrettyCoolStairs wrote:I love videos like this! Looks like we have the voice actors for these characters: Arthur, Bud Compson, Ratburn, Binky/Dad/Bailey, DW, Buster and Francine. I actually like this current Arthur voice actor. It's not whiny or extremely high-pitched like others have been. I hope if we get a season 22, he sticks around.

I've never heard the story about Ratburn's voice selection. Interesting!
i thought i was the only one in the fandom who thought he was a major improvement over the last few voice actors, really hoping he continues to voice arthur too. 

also in case anyone was unaware julie lemieux is the blonde woman in the video who was also interviewed, and she voices bud. it was a HUUUGE surprise to me, this whole time i had no idea lol. 

im really glad they finally interviewed daniel brochu, bruce dinsmore, arthur holden and jodie resther. it's rare to find any of the actors sitting down and discussing their roles like they did in this video...also, as others have mentioned, some of the commentary they had on their voices was pretty neat.

So Danny is the one with the mustache I'm assuming.
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Re: Season 21

Post by CMSAB11 on Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:15 pm

yep that's him
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Re: Season 21

Post by PrettyCoolStairs on Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:14 pm

Found on the PBS Kids/Arthur website: a nice lineup of the kids in their Halloween costumes.

From Hic or Treat, we know the Brain is "the 14th Century", Francine is a prom queen, Buster is Candy Boy, and Arthur is Franken-tist. D.W. looks to be a doctor, as seen in several other previous episodes, and Pal is a pirate dog.

Any guesses what Muffy and Binky are supposed to be?
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Re: Season 21

Post by CMSAB11 on Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:40 pm

i think binky is a pro wrestler. no idea what muffy is...maybe a maid?
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Re: Season 21

Post by Kerry9Story on Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:04 pm

pry sure.
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Re: Season 21

Post by CMSAB11 on Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:23 pm

brain what the hell kind of costume is the fucking 14th century, can you be any more of a dork?
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Re: Season 21

Post by Kerry9Story on Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:47 pm


^his snobass soon i hope.
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Re: Season 21

Post by PrettyCoolStairs on Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:36 pm

Wow! So much disapproval of the Brain! lol He's not my favorite either, anyways...

We have another short preview clip from Arthur and the Haunted Tree House.
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Re: Season 21

Post by Roabe on Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:03 am

Calling it right now. The "ghost" is probably D.W. or Bud.
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Re: Season 21

Post by CMSAB11 on Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:21 pm

this is what i've gathered based on the preview clips:
dw wants to join in on arthur's halloween sleepover with his friends but of course he tells her no. she gets angry and wants to get revenge on him so she and bud try to scare arthur and co during their sleepover...im 99% sure this is what happens. is anyone else kind of disappointed that bud and dw might have more of a role in the plot than we thought? i thought this special was primarily about the third graders. i hope it isnt going to be a repeat of beastly birthday where half the movie is focused on dw and bud and the other half centers on the third graders. if it is, this special is going to be a huge letdown, and i hope it isn't because the movie summary doesn't mention bud and dw ANYWHERE...so if they are going to be behind that treehouse prank lets hope they wont appear that frequently.
oh and i found screenshots of bud, dw and binky (i like binky's costume lol)

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Re: Season 21

Post by PrettyCoolStairs on Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:01 pm

That is a fair prediction. It sounds pretty obvious Bud is the spooky voice, but if you read some of the comments from the "Average Joe" Arthur fans on the Facebook video, they believe it sounds like Binky. Strange.

Anyways, if you're interested in seeing the kids' costumes, go to the PBSKIDS.org homepage. If you're on a desktop/laptop, you should see Arthur and one other character in costume. When you refresh the page, you'll get a different character besides Arthur. There's a total of 11, including preschooler Amanda Hulser. Perhaps she will get a rare speaking role in the special?
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Re: Season 21

Post by CMSAB11 on Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:26 pm

whoa thats so cool...it's a small detail but i love how when get francine you can see that she's wearing jeans and sneakers under her costume Wink
i love sue ellen's costume too, i wonder what kind of superhero she's supposed to be? i wonder the book on her costume supposed to be a reference to "sue ellen and the last page"...
muffy, too...me and lotta think she looks better with her hair down than she does with pigtails so i know he'll love it when he sees her Razz now that i see her full image, she looks more like alice in wonderland than a maid to me
that's interesting about amanda too...i don't think she's had a speaking role on the show in years lmao
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Re: Season 21

Post by TheMilanTooner on Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:50 am

So, has anyone seen Haunted Treehouse yet?
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Re: Season 21

Post by Kerry9Story on Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:41 am

i aint seen it but im see it
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Re: Season 21

Post by Mr. Eight-Three-One on Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:26 pm

So, I'll drop in again and give my thoughts on this special, because I'm just prone to popping in and out on here. Worth mentioning, my station I believe was one of the first to show this special across the country (6 in the morning, Central Standard Time).

Overall?

It was better than The Beastly Birthday, but still was nothing to write home about. Detailed thoughts in the spoilers.

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So, once again we suffer a bad case of B-plots that are more interesting than the main plot. What is their deal with this?

However, the main plot wasn't an absolute snooze-fest this time around. It was very rife with cliches though; the usual "characters get scared by something that is actually completely harmless" crossed with "friends pranking friends". This is something the show has already done several times so seeing it get done again is tiring. And it was super predictable as well. Come on, did anyone hear that voice and *not* recognize it was Bud's? It did start to get funny towards the end when Francine, Buster and Arthur tried to get back at them, but overall it was pretty meh. Not awful, but not good. Still a step up from Beastly Birthday's A-plot though.

As for the numerous sidetrackings? By far my favorite had to be with Binky and Ratburn. Ratburn is exactly the kind of person who would go overboard with an Edgar Allen Poe type of setup, and it was done so perfectly. And Binky being completely blind to the setup also worked great as a foil. We've gotten development with Ratburn that suggests he really is just a big kid inside, and his house being set up in such a manner really works on a level I can't describe.

Muffy's plot was also pretty good, which was not what I was expecting. I was thinking she'd just be her usual super scaredy-cat type of self, but they completely turned it around for the special and it actually was believable. Plus, seeing us get to know Bailey as a person instead of the butler who takes all the abuse is always a plus.

Francine's story was pretty predictable. At first I thought it was just one person playing two characters, but it still wasn't very hard to tell the whole thing was a trick. It was neat though that they showed they did indeed do trick-or-treating at her apartment.

So, overall? Meh. Didn't really need to be an hour long episode, there was a heavy amount of padding and I'd really like if they started actually treating the hour run time as special again like they did with Arthur's Perfect Christmas. Still, for what it's worth, I enjoyed parts of it and it was a step above D.W. and the Beastly Birthday if nothing else. Nothing I'd call must-watch though.

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Re: Season 21

Post by ArthurFrancineFan on Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:31 pm

Snowth Poogle wrote:I think considering about 2-3 years have past, Seasons 20 and 21 have been completed, and I've received no further word from anybody, that this pretty much confirms that they won't be using the spec script I submitted. I'm really not disappointed though: it was an interesting experience, and Greg was a wonderful guidance throughout the entire process (and even he was surprised I got as far as I did), so at least I can say I did something worthwhile.

Now, as for my interpretations of these titles and descriptions so far, here are my thoughts:

- "Binky's 'A' Game": Why do I get the feeling this is going to be like that HEY ARNOLD! episode where Helga and Harold's test results got switched and Harold was convinced he was a genius, while Helga was convinced she was dumber than dirt?

- "Brain and the Time Capsul": This plot has already been done in many shows before; M*A*S*H had a time capsul episode; ED, EDD N EDDY had a time capsul episode; I think even COW AND CHICKEN had a time capsul episode. All I can say is this will probably end up being an episode full of Continuity Porn.

- "The Master Builders": Honestly doesn't sound like a very strong plot, and it really doesn't even sound like it has enough of a spinal column to be a 2-parter.

- "Francine and the Soccer Spy": Question! How many soccer-related Francine episodes does it take to bang our heads into a wall?

- "Sue Ellen and the Last Page": As much as you guys think it's a cockeyed and perposterous idea, I think this is actually more true-to-life than you think; in this day and age of digital resources, and information on a variety of different devices - not to mention our post-modern society's anti-book mentality - libraries are really falling by the wayside, and many of them are desperate to get people to come in and visit. But, I will agree, this does also sound like it could be a rehash of "Sue Ellen Chickens Out."

- "Muffy Misses Out": Let me guess . . . Muffy becomes too wrapped up in herself, or something she's obsessing over (a new gadget, a new toy, a new fad, something), and ends up neglecting her friends and the fun activities they're doing in the process? Or, maybe it'll be a rehash of "Arthur Rides the Bandwagon," and she'll find herself in Arthur's position when he was mising out on the Woogle fad?

- "Arthur Takes a Stand": Another anvilicious episode where Arthur protests something that kids his age wouldn't normally protest?

- "Take a Hike, Molly": Molly takes up hiking, and finds that she actually likes being in the great outdoors and being one with nature, but fears it may ruin her rep and street cred?

- "Slink's Special Talent": Somebody remind me again why Slink is a Tough Customer when he was originally a Mighty Mountain kid? Anyway, I'm going to assume this is like Rattles and his secret appreciation for the finer things in life like chess and culinary creations.

- "The Lost Dinosaur": I'm going to guess that this will be like "D.W.'s Blankey," only this time, Bud loses Rapty.

- "The Princess Problem": A rehash of "Kiss and Tell," where D.W. develops a princess complex after Emily says something happened to her that made her a princess? Or a rehash of "Background Blues" where Muffy is desperate to find some trace of royalty in the Crosswire family tree?

- "Invasion of the Soccer Fans": . . . What?

- "Pal and the Big Itch": Forget it.

Let's all agree to meet back in this thread and see how many of my predictions actually come true.

Sounds very accurate.
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Re: Season 21

Post by PrettyCoolStairs on Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:10 pm

Most stations premiered it this morning at 7 AM Eastern/6 AM Central, with PBS KIDS 24/7 showing it at 8 AM. Many more repeats throughout the upcoming week.

As for my initial thoughts: it's an okay special. It probably beats "Beastly Birthday", simply because there are hardly any imagination/fantasy sequences to make it worse than the Ukubonga island. But it's a far cry from the perfection of "Perfect Christmas".

Historically, the Arthur show does an excellent job of eliciting an emotional response from the viewers. For example, in "Arthur's Knee", background music and detailed imagery really convey a spooky (almost dangerous) atmosphere at the city dump. While I don't think this new Halloween special topped that feeling, there were several scary/creepy things that stood out to me. The one-eyed Zelda doll and the old goat woman (Mrs. Ethel Saperstein) with her twitching eye and horns both are relatively creepy. Rain and lightning also helped to boost the spook-factor (similar to "Hide and Snake").

I'm glad they stayed true to the original Halloween episode "Hic or Treat". For the most part, there's not many continuity errors I could see between the two episodes, since they touch on almost entirely different topics. The 15-minute episode sort of focused on D.W.'s hiccups and Arthur's wanting a scary costume, while the special branched out to others' Halloween experiences. I noticed the Tibbles had different costumes though, and the Brain was wearing the ice cream bear costume rather than the 14th Century lol.

Other random pros: I liked getting to see more of Westboro Apartments, and the city cemetery. Also enjoyed Ratburn's short-story-themed house-- after all, the Arthur show used to make references to reading and literature a LOT, so I was pleased to see some of that Smile And we got another brother/sister moment at the end with Arthur and D.W. I always like that.

Now to the "bad" stuff that I didn't really like. LADONNA. Maybe I would have liked this special a bit more had she not been in on the prank. I feel like Fern could've pulled something off like this, and I would've appreciated it more. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think her character added anything to the plot.

Speaking of the plot, it's pretty similar to "The Fright Stuff" when someone pulls a prank, and then the tables turn and they get pranked back. "The Fright Stuff" was done much better however. Maybe because it actually ended up being a (legit?) ghost pulling pranks? LOL

Binky's plot was my least favorite. Kind of long and drawn out and strange. Will little kids who watch this even understand that he was going to TP Ratburn's house? I understand Binky was dared to do this, but I would've liked to see all the Tough Customers go together.

I might have more to say later on, but that's what I've thought about after seeing it twice. Overall, not a must-see "I want the DVD of it" special, but it's better than some 15-minute episodes we've had recently.
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Re: Season 21

Post by CMSAB11 on Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:01 am

well! the general consensus here is that the special was meh. could have been better! could have been worse. i honestly have to agree with that. 
(this is long as hell because i don't know when to shut up Laughing)
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i see my predictions about dw trying to get revenge on arthur came true. the only thing that surprised me about the prank was the fact that dw and bud involved ladonna as well. that made things a little more interesting (but only if you like ladonna lol). i like how arthur, buster and francine pranked bud, ladonna and dw back. 

speaking of which i'm glad francine had more of a prominent role in the special considering she didn't appear much at all in beastly birthday. actually it kind of reminded me of the old episodes (waaay back, like s1-3) where francine, arthur and buster were sort of the main trio. ladonna appears to be replacing francine in much the same way that bud is replacing james as dw's preschool buddy. at least in this special, the old gang was back together again. it was hilarious when she got catherine's prom dress wet and muddy and said it was an improvement. i cant begin to imagine how pissed catherine got Laughing

that being said, i really didn't like francine's plot with the old lady. actually that entire story kind of bored me. it was kind of funny when muffy revealed that it was a trick the old lady played on kids every halloween though.

i thought binky's plot was pretty good. i got a kick out of ratburn and his elaborate haunted house with the many references to edgar allen poe's telltale heart, it was super in character. actually im kind of amazed he went through all that effort, did anyone realize he pretty much rearranged all the furniture in his house just for this and after all his hard work only binky visited his house. that made me sad, poor mr. ratburn. it was pretty heartwarming at the conclusion of his plot because he let binky off the hook and actually inspired him to learn about edgar allen poe. oh side note...molly appeared TWICE, first with james (who i thought had died of a broken heart because he's not dw's preschool boyfriend anymore) and then with the tough customers...and for the first time in like three seasons she kind of sort of spoke! affraid

there were a couple things i liked about muffy's plot. first of all bailey has developed more of a personality??? i thought it was cute how he was kind of overconfident and pretending to be brave when really muffy was less afraid of the cemetery and the cat than him lol. despite not really knowing much about his personality up to this point it kind of fits, and maybe it shows that bailey and muffy have a close friendship. in past episodes we see that muffy doesn't always take advantage of him and she really cares about him. he's just so much more than a butler to her. also the mad hatter getup was really cute. i mentioned this before but muffy makes a great alice, she looks great with her hair down. 

also did anyone notice that "inky" was just nemo with black fur? yea just one of the many examples of oasis being lazy.  Laughing

i agree with prettycoolstairs about the ending. i do like how they're trying to add more heartwarming brother/sister moments into episodes between arthur and d.w., though they put greater emphasis on their relationship in beastly birthday than it they did here obviously. arthur telling d.w. he'd protect her from anything really scary was touching. thora and kate as the wolf and little red riding hood was so cute and so was the part where they tried to scare arthur and dw!

i loved how buster just kept complaining that nothing happened to him the whole night AND ALSO when he pretended to be zelda that was cute but yea nothing noteworthy about him in the special because he had no real sub-plot Sad

overall i liked it! it was a decent special, but as i mentioned in the beginning i do agree that it was nothing spectacular. some parts of the special were admittedly boring (again, francine and the old lady) but it kept my interest the majority of the time. it did beat beastly birthday by a long shot as others have mentioned because no one likes the preschoolers they're boring lol.

side note about the animation - for some reason i thought it was a step above the animation in beastly birthday. i think oasis did a great job on the backgrounds, so that certainly helped. the animation itself is becoming more fluid, i notice there is more concentration on subtle movements of the hair, ears, etc. which helps. did anyone notice how fluid buster's movements were in the treehouse, too? for some reason that stood out to me. when he shifted around to look at the wall of the treehouse for example. it was kind of fast but woah good job oasis! also i cant imagine how hard he was to animate with his giantass costume so props to them for pulling it off so well  bounce 

i'm excited for the rest of the premiere week! unfortunately my pbs channel is refusing to air anything but arthur and the haunted treehouse (i've been trying to find the season 21 episodes on the schedule for weeks to no avail Sad ) so i'll have to catch them on the arthur website or youtube...meh. luckily pbs usually posts the new episodes the day of the premiere. arthur and the haunted treehouse is up now for those who didn't get to see it! http://pbskids.org/arthur/video/index.html
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Re: Season 21

Post by Kerry9Story on Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:46 am


^new eps be like this shit im hopin.
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Re: Season 21

Post by ArthurFrancineFan on Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:16 pm

Ladonna is replacing Francine?
Oh HALE NOW
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Re: Season 21

Post by CMSAB11 on Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:29 pm

so has anyone seen binky's "a" game/brain and the time capsule and/or the master builders? did they air on your pbs channels? if not where did you find them?? pbs is refusing to upload either episode. i did find this clip of binky's "a" game if anyone is interested
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Re: Season 21

Post by Mr. Eight-Three-One on Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:40 pm

Just saw Binky's "A"-Game/Brain and the Time Capsule today, and I have The Master Builders DVR'd so it's ready to watch tomorrow. The Master Builders aired on my main PBS channel, but on the PBS Kids subchannel both of them aired today. If you can't get the PBS Kids subchannel, there's a live feed of it on the PBS Kids web site you can watch; Arthur comes on from 8-9AM, 9-10PM, and 5-6AM (Eastern time) so you can always tune in there if all else fails.

Anyway, my thoughts on the one I watched today...

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Binky's "A"-Game: I kinda liked this one. I love that we *finally* got a nod to Binky's real first name again (I was convinced they had forgotten about it entirely), and maybe this is just me, but the "cheat sheet" part actually made so much sense; I major in engineering at college, and sometimes they let us have a sheet of notes for tests, but when they do, I usually find that writing the sheet of notes ironically ends up meaning I don't even need it half the time! Either way, it wasn't great, but it was enjoyable.

Brain and the Time Capsule: Another solid one, and you gotta love that they referred to Uncle Slam again. I have to say though I think I cringed when Muffy brought up selfies. That's a good sign this show has run way too long. Also, if I want to be honest, I think they really should have hammered in the point that if all the kids wanted to put things in the time capsule so bad, they could have just made their own and saved Brain all the trouble. Either way, I liked it. It wasn't great, but eh, it's better than most of the episodes we got in the latter half of Season 21, so I'll take it.
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Re: Season 21

Post by CMSAB11 on Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:51 pm

yeah that lines up with the wnet kids 13 station in new york, i don't know why the schedule they list alongside the live feed is so inaccurate and misleading?? my pbs sucks because it basically pulled arthur off the air completely Neutral thanks for the info!
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Re: Season 21

Post by PrettyCoolStairs on Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:54 pm

That's correct. As long as you're within the US, you can watch Arthur online (or PBS Kids app) live at 5 AM, 8 AM and 9 PM. Central time zone is pushed back an hour, but you are able to check the lineup on the side bar, I think. The remainder of this week's PBS KIDS 24/7 schedule is as follows:
Wed 10/25 "Haunted Tree House" Special
Thu 10/26 "Francine and the Soccer Spy/Sue Ellen and the Last Page", and rerun "DW's Time Trouble/Buster's Amish Mismatch"
Fri 10/27 "Binky's A Game/Brain and the Time Capsule", and "The Master Builders"

My PBS HD channel hasn't aired "The Master Builders" yet, but it was already shown on their kids subchannel. It's kinda weird how the scheduling does that kind of thing. I'll have my comments about #2101 and #2102 soon, but I'll tease and say I was pleasantly surprised with the two-parter #2102 The Master Builders!
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Re: Season 21

Post by ArthurFrancineFan on Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:56 pm

I'm not in the US. We no longer have access to it, even with our version of cable TV and Netflix NZ is lame AF
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